Tuesday, September 12, 2006

"I don't know much." -Socrates

Agree or disagree?:
"The only thing that I know is that I know nothing." -Socrates

Will you openly admit that the only piece of knowledge that we can hold that is an absolute truth is that we don't know much? Or we don't really know anything to begin with.
But then perhaps we get more? Or not?

Side note: (Ignore this side note unless you're looking for a good bit of entertainment at my expense).
Did my question make sense? sorry i'm tired and my right eye was pushed into my head by like a foot or so when my dad tried to touch my forehead and give me acne when he was being evil but missed and hit my eye instead. owch. (I was exaggerating a bit about my eye being pushed in by a foot in distance...because that would mean my eye came out the back of my head a while back). (hahaha lol). (ok i'll be quiet now).

Do humans possess truth? How much? How do we know? Are these good enough questions dangit?


Vvyynn said...

I'd get that eye thing checked out, My uncle died of "Foot-Eye". Do we as humans possess truth. I would have to say that Socrates took a very safe approach in stating that the only thing he is certain about is that he knows nothing (paraphrased). So, if you want to be safe and the like, yes this is true. However, I'd like to think that I hold some truth in me (Of course, it's my ego speaking, and not my reasoning). Also, if you are going along with the "universal truth", then we all possess a part of the universal truth, we just don't know what it is. Well, I've got an extended essay to work on.

Big E said...

Well, that statement is obviously more of a literary device than a statement of fact; it is a paradox. Legend has it (Plato, actually, as he detailed socrates life) that Socrates traveled to great length to talk to wise men all throught greece and he was struck by what he learned from them. They all throught they knew everything, yet they al disagreed with each other. Since these contradictions meant that most of those men had ot be wrong, that lead Socrates to form his theories. He said that the first mark of a wise man is to admit that they know nothing. Then they must start on a trail to wisdom that Socrates details in his dialogues. This method is they way that virtualy all philosophers after him have justified themselves. Socrates thought that being able to hypothesise knowledge was much more important that actualy possesing it. Wrgo, this statement by socrates means much more in the context of his larger beliefs.

Merry_Dip_Salad_Bunny said...

Indeed, i will agree with both of you. I will openly admit, well to begin with, that down to the basic grind of my mind, i know nothing. It is clean, a clean slate. But then as i start obtaining PJTB's (you know what those are! hee-hee-hee) then i become more "knowledgably riveting!" "True genius!"-New York Times.
In response to Evv/Big E, yes Socrates did develop his theory through many trialed experiences, and yes it makes more sense to people in the context of his life and teachings. However, being an IB student, we all lay witness to the same kind of primal thinkers that Socrates came across in his days (of course, with the exception of you, me, vynni, and anyone else who is kind enough to respond to my blog)...(heheheh)...thus we would have the same experiences in some essence as Socrates himself, labeling us liable to use the statement, "the only thing i can truly know, at the base of all my knowledge, is that i truly know NOTHING." From there, as Vynni and Evan sort of ajointly stated, though indirectly, we will obtain knowledge along with an ego on steroids, and then it is our life goal and thus the meaning of life to separate universal truths from our egotistic selfish pragmatic or other downright biassed non truths that appear in the form of truths. Make I sense?
Mer -.-

Vvyynn said...

Saca Puntos! I have nothing more to say, but I'm fulfilling my own destiny as prescribed by myself. You make to the sense for I am the walrus lives in a cool dry place settler of the West of the border of the nice Dali painting to the left of Limaugh's views.

Merry_Dip_Salad_Bunny said...

Understand, I. Vynni makes perfect sense. However, I would be disinclined to say that I am like Dali, in the sense that I am not an abstract painter. I would however take this as a compliment because Dali was a mastermind of some sort. Well highly intelligent, insanely disturbing, and well this is irrelevant. I'm sorry if I was destroying our language. Please forgive me.

Vvyynn said...

I actually said something last post? Wow, that's news to me.